my name is Yer and I'm a I'm a strong
supporter of
Israel you're a strong supporter of
Israel exactly oh really go ahead you
I'm I'm intrigued I believe George you
are part of the problem why there is not
going to be any peace at all in Israel
yeah yes tell me why Yousef I'm part of
the problem my goodness because I'm I
think that you know propaganda is not
going to lead us anywhere we must speak
the TRU George and
yeah I believe
I
youf yes I believe propaganda is not
going to lead us anywhere and we have to
speak the truth when it comes to Israel
let speak the truth then go ahead Speak
Your Truth answer has to correspond
either to the empirical form of
measurement or to logical reasoning
process and and the naked truth about
the about who the naked truth about who
actually is occupying whose land and has
to cohere are not in cohere with history
archaeology Theology and Logics and you
know from the historical point of view
that land belongs to Israel from
theological point of view it belongs to
Israel from archaeological point of view
it belongs to Israel and now the very
fact that once a debate has been
established on false that debate is
already lost and wor that is not such
called you know it you smiling it you
though these are invented people they
never belong to that land and from the
theological point of view they are
Muslims they are not 8s when they claim
that is their land that means they don't
even believe in
Allah well it's interesting it's
interesting that you uh bring up uh
Allah uh because you know that the
prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him
ascended to the heavens from Palestine
from Jerusalem from the
alaka uh now this makes the matter of
sacred importance to the Muslim um which
is as you probably know Yousef almost
two billion strong and that Mosque of Al
AA is now in the hands of foreigners you
talk have the nerf to talk about
indigenous people but the vast majority
of the citizens of Israel are not
indigenous to anywhere except North
America and Europe and the people who
run the State now and have always run
the state are indigenous to Europe hold
on to Europe and North America they have
nothing to do with Palestine
and I'm talking now you spoke for quite
a long time and I'll let you back in
when I'm finished talking the uh people
who founded this state were more than
ready to found it in any number of other
places other than Palestine so your uh
claim that God was the estate agent in
all of this is absurd because the
Zionist movement first asked the British
if they could create a state of Israel
in the SE shells or in Uganda or in
Patagonia in Latin America in Argentina
what is now the state of Argentina so
there's nothing wholly or religious
about the claim to set up a state of
Israel it was just another European
settler State and it was ready to
establish itself wherever the British
Empire would give it land to do so
secondly as you mention
atheism every single one of the Zionist
leaders who wanted from Britain land to
create a state of Israel was in fact an
atheist they did not believe in God and
therefore could not possibly have been
claiming that God promised them the land
of Palestine but and here's my point
because I don't really hold with going
back thousands of years or relying on
religious scriptures especially those
that were written by men I ask you this
Yousef yes if it's as clearcut as you
say it is then Israel has no problem now
Netanyahu has no problem there is no
threat to Israel because according to
you from every single standpoint and by
the use of any yard stick Israel is
entitled to this land but they do have a
problem don't they M mhm what is it is
it me am I the problem no let me talk
yeah you've been talking it looks like
you are the only one who has a point
what I mean by that you know when we
willfully and purposely deny all these
facts there'll be no solution the only
solution is we have to go back to
history to know where we are and where
we are from and where we and where we
are heading to historically we are
giving possession to the the to to to
the people who has no historical
connection to that land these people are
Arabs they are the land of Israel
belongs to the Jews not the Arabs and
even before Yousef let me interrupt you
for a second I'll let you continue cuz
I'm fascinated by how you reach this uh
standpoint shall I say what do you mean
they are Arabs does that mean that they
are not Palestinians is that your point
Palestinians when we say Palestinian
this a different thing and the only way
we can know who are palestinia we have
to go back to history Palestinians are a
different people we know in 585 BC no no
look we don't have enough time to bug
ourselves down in 585 BC let's try
instead youf let's try instead
2014 ad well there are
million Palestinians millions of them
under
occupation look listen to me and then
I'll let you back in there are 13
million Palestinians millions of them
under occupation and Siege but most of
them outside of the land living as
refugees that is a fact it's a clear and
present threat to the existence of what
they call Israel otherwise Israel would
have no problems and we wouldn't be
having this conversation so these real
live 13 million Palestinians either live
in Palestine or are demanding the right
to return to Palestine what are you
going to do about it Yousef no I ask you
this simple question why they not speak
in Arabic if they are Palestinians
because I know Palestinians are
different people like when we say
Chinese so why are they speaking Arabic
now when they are Palestinians why are
they not speaking Palestinian language
there no Palestinian language the
Palestinian language is Palestinian
language is
Arabic get your nose out of your ancient
books I'm talking to you not about 565
BC but about
2014 ad what are you going to do about
the millions of
Palestinian Arabs who speak Arabic who
are Christian and Muslim what are you
going to do about
them excuse
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mege I think that's the heavens crying
Yousef nobody can take much more of your
obscurantism attend to your baby please
because there are many crying children
in Palestine some of whom were killed
just yesterday as netanyahu's rage at
the unity agreement reached between
between Hamas and fata was played out uh
in the media Israel immediately launched
its air strikes which killed and maimed
many most of them children in the
northern part of Gaza